Kariong hieroglyphs – press release

I’ve limited my mentions of the Kariong hieroglyphs to date, mainly because its a big topic and because there are lots of other places on the Internet you can go to to see both sides at work.  So far I’ve mainly posted on Kariong clips on Youtube here and most recently here.  There are plans for a comprehensive treatment, but work has got in the way, so while there is a lot in draft, very little has actually appeared on this site.

A few days ago I got contacted about the Kariong glyphs by a Newcastle, NSW, journalist.  The main advocate for the authenticity of the engravings – Hans Dieter von Senff – had issued a press release to a host of news agencies about the site and some new discoveries he had made there.  Iwas asked to comment, and gave a fairly general answer about my overall studies rather than the claim, since I had not seen the press release as yet.

I thought it might be useful, while the news is still ‘hot’ to call your attention to it.

Firstly, here’s the text of the press release:

Press Release

New archaeological find in N.S.W. shows that first Visitors to Australia arrived  some 5.000 years ago

Dr. Hans-Dieter von Senff

e-mail :  – – – – – – –

Tel.: – – – – – – – –

 Dear Editor, Archaeologist or Egyptologist.

In order to get your attention about this archaeological breakthrough, that set’s new pre-historic borders for the pre-historic non-aboriginal arrivals in Australia.

An arrival that has hitherto been denied, by Academe and other vested interests.  These pictures were taken in N.S.W. some 60 km. from Sydney, and provide proof of hidden chambers, hewn out of solid sandstone, some 5,000 years ago; up to three metres underground, in solid rock, a feat that cannot be attributed neither to the Aborigines, nor white man, because the underground structures , being build of rock plates, too big and too heavy to be carried into the site, are an enigma, that no one can explain. The proof consist of photo’s, taken inside the chambers, which have since been filled in by the Department of National Parks and Wildlife Services. Yet an e-mail from Sweden confirms the existence, first discovered in the late 1980’s.

 Entry to the underground Section in 2001 Only one metre below the surface, archaeological evidence is hidden. The nine metres long stone shaft, or door to eternity.  Note the roof, rough, unhewn and open. This is the surface, on which modern man walks every day. Pay attention to the walls.  Handmade sand stone plates.  Some two metres below ground, more sandstone work turns into archaeological evidence. Inserted three metres long stone block in sandstone.  Purpose as yet, unknown.

 Close up shot of 3 metres long sandstone block, inserted into wall, picture taken in the northerly direction.  At the end of the three metre long chamber, a drive that goes downward by a metre, and which is blocked by a sandstone plate, which a hollow space underneath.  Only archaeologists can solve the riddle.

 The next picture shows the roof above the drive. As every Opal miner knows, this kind of effect is only achieved, when  the miner comes from below and removes the sandstone by deliberate work with a chisel, hardened by steel. How did pre-historic man do it.

Stone chisel !!!

This is further archaeological proof of a man made chamber three meters underground in solid sandstone.

 However, as stated, all these archaeological constructions have since 2001, been re-buried by N.S.W. National Parks and Wildlife Service.

However, the biggest and so far most impressive, and above ground chamber, too big to be filled in by vested interest, was build off huge stone plates.  Even the roof plate is man made, and seen resting on the wall facing the Pacific Ocean.  This chamber was unknown until the 18th. February 2012, and is clearly man made, hence of archaeological interest to the people of New South Wales.

The archaeologist Dr. Reinoud de Jonge from the Megalithic Research Institute in Holland, explained how such huge slab of sandstone could have been moved, to form the roof. He explained, that such megalithic chambers would have been filled with sand, before such huge stone slab was moved.   However, it leaves the archaeolic reasons unanswered. Why was it excavated, leaving enough space below for tree trunks to support the roof.  Is that how it was done?

 The estimated weight of the stone slab reaches from 100 ton up to 200 tons.  Clearly, too big a load, to be manhandled by white men in secret or aborigines, who would not have found a use for such chambers, hence would not have found any use for any of these archaeological features displayed in the various chambers.

 Now I hear you ask, Editors, Archaeologist and interested researchers, Where is this Archaeological site in N.S.W..

The entry to the last chamber was achieved by climbing through a near invisible gap, near the southern end entry of the site, inside the Kariong Hieroglyphic Site, declared a Hoax by some Egyptologists, who do not want to know the truth.

Three metres behind this engraved wall is the above hidden chamber. Clearly man made.

Three metres behind this ancient man made hieroglyphic site at Kariong, (left) in solid sand stone, lies the newly found man made chamber, providing ultimate proof, of who build the chamber and who engraved the Pre- and Proto Dynastic Hieroglyphs at Kariong.

An ancient Stanley chisel, maybe 5.000 years old.

How many of these ancient stone chisels were used, to create the oldest written document in New South Wales, if not Australia. You are invited to guess, if you are an Editor, Egyptologist or Archaeologist.

Please help, if you are interested in solving this pre-historic Australian riddle.

Dr. Hans-Dieter von Senff

The press release was originally laid out with integrated pictures which were scrambled out in the version I had so the captions read a bit incongruously.  Most of the pictures have been published by Senff elsewhere on the Internet.

Here’s a link to the newspaper article that appeared as a result of the press release in today’s Newcastle Herald.  It appears to have been the only paper that took up the story.  I would have to say that the story is not bad – it gives Senff his opportunity to set out his case, and covers both supporting and contrary arguments.  The reporter, Matthew Kelly, seemd conscientious and careful when he discussed the issue with me.  The public ocmments are perhaps more interesting.  Almost all are very negative, and it will be interesting to see if there is a long life for the story and whether more positive

Because of the offer for archaeologists to get involved and solve this riddle I think its worth just setting out the ‘riddle’, before we begin to address particular issues.

Senff’s key arguments expressed in the press release and in his other writings are:

1.  The arrangement of stone blocks and below-ground cavities, some originally voids and others filled with sediment, cannot have been created by nature, nor by Aboriginal technology.

2.  The hieroglyphs are genuine because, in part, they refer to burials within these cavities, which were not known about when the hieroglyphs were discovered.

3.  Evidence of recent construction of some cavities by bringing in slabs, or digging out others, and photos of fresh carvings can be explained away without compromising the validity of most of the evidence on the site.

4.  Most Egyptologists are not trained to read this early form of hieroglyphs.  They are an authentic message because they set out a story rather than a random bunch of words.  Therefore their statements lack authority.

5.  The condition of the engravings and site is consistent with the natural processes that would have taken place over the past 4,500 years.

6.  The story recorded in the hieroglyph inscription explains all of the necessary leaps in logic that would otherwise have to be accounted for, such as errors in the inscription being errors because the workers were actually illiterate seamen.

7.  Egyptians vessls, as appear in models, archaeological finds and tomb decorations were capable of making the vogage to the eastern Australian coast.  The great circle distance from Cairo to Gosford, ie the minimum possible point to point distance which includes land, is 14,433 km [8,968 miles].  Actual distances would reasonably be doubled.

8.  There is a conspiracy that involves collusion of National Parks and Wildlife Service staff, some academics and possibly others to conceal or downplay the acceptance of the authenticity of the engravings.

9.  More evidence survives on the site, as shown by Senff’s discovery in February 2012 of another chamber.

I think that fairly sums it up for the views of Senff and those who follow him.  Other secret visitor claimants, such as Rex Gilroy and Marilyn Pye have very different interpretations of the Kariong glyphs as well, and how they fit into stories of the past.  Over the coming months I’ll start to post on some of these topics.  I’m pleased that I can claim some relevant experience for about 5-6 of them.  The exception is hieroglyphs, which I have never studied but, as is clear from above,  the validity of the glyphs is only one piece of the riddle, and not necessarily the one that keeps it all together.

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2 Responses to Kariong hieroglyphs – press release

  1. Helen Parks says:

    There is one detail appearing in these glyphs which could prove their authenticity…
    The stylised angulation of the pyramid is the EXACT SAME as that seen on the right hand door jamb of the tomb of Seti I
    the same door jamb which belongs to the infamous – but ONLY RECENTLY DISCOVERED door lintel which shows the aerial refueller, the helicopter, the one-man jet, electric light poles, Maya numerals for ”12”, Apis the Bee, renamed Vespa the Wasp in the 1600’s, now part of Aries.

  2. Dear Editor.
    Congratulations on a level headed review of my press release and the conclusions. I have since forwarded the same Press release to
    Archaeologists at Sydney University, as well as others at Flinders Uni and University of New England. Your conclusion, repeated next, is correct. when you state that: “The exception is hieroglyphs, which I have never studied but, as is clear from above, the validity of the glyphs is only one piece of the riddle, and not necessarily the one that keeps it all together.” is a correct assessment.

    It is evident from the underground chambers and the above ground
    chamber, that these were created, not by white fellows, not by black fellows, but a hitherto unidentified people, who I suggest, were Ancient Egyptians.

    As I am presently transliterating the Cairo Fragment 1. recto, of the Palermo Stone, I may point out that the square cartouches at Kariong are similar to those of the 4th.Dynasty on the Palermo Stone. (Hence the experts, got it wrong, again).

    I also would like to draw your attention to the following enigma.

    The glyph GES has in Gardiner’s and other Grammatica’s the following fixed meaning. GES equals either side or half. However, at the Kariong Site it has an added meaning, namely chamber. This will
    demand a re-reading of ancient text’s, just to insure, that if engraved in gravesites in Egypt or Sudan, that such text’s must be re-evaluated, to insure that no hidden side and half chambers are left uninvestigated.

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